Sponsored by the Campus Republicans and a group called Young Life (America?), Karl Rove spoke to a subdued, mixed crowd numbering 200-300 at Denison University's Swasey Chapel.

I did see a vanity plate in the parking garage from New Jersey with that on it, as in YGLFAM or the like.

In a liberal arts college, the house was very civilized. The only outbreak was when a young fellow who had several male family military members involved in several wars asked Karl why we fight for human rights and then deny them for prisoners of war.

Karl spoke on the economy, and about his mistakes in the White House (should have gone for immigration stuff first then the Social Security), with the smirk of Cheney across his lips and nukular (sic) on the tongue. It was apparent he spent a lot of time with these guys. As to the specific content of his speech, it was main stream right, though not very condescending as one might presume. There were applauses from the right on their catch phrases.

One of the questioners from Change For Ohio, asked Karl about the "martial law" threat on two republican members of congress, one of whom being Imhoff, for not following the party line, but was poo pooed by Rove and denied after the petitioner claimed to have video proof.

The arguments continued from Rove, as from the right, that our national debt has not been as high as it was since WW2.

(Well personally, I would think that economic excursion got us through many years of middle class progress.)

Of course he railed the high debt and all the consequences, but such forethought was not used before invading Iraq.

He did bring up the election theft of Ohio subject and added, "What did they think I had? I did not have some magic little black box."

Well Karl maybe you didn't but perhaps Mike Connell did.