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As the New Orleans disaster recedes from the headlines, citizen activists face a choice. We can focus exclusively on other newer issues. Or we can work to make the disaster one of those key turning points with the potential to transform American politics. For this to happen, we need to consciously create new dialogue, reaching well beyond the core converted.

If we think back to the 9/11 attacks, which have shaped American politics ever since, a brief window of critical reflection opened up in their immediate wake. Middle East experts critical of U.S. policies had op-eds in our largest newspapers and appeared on network TV. Ordinary citizens mourned the victims, while asking what would make the attackers so embittered they'd be willing to murder 3,000 innocent people. The next day, when I spoke about possible root causes, with even more frankness than usual, at a community college in the overwhelmingly Republican suburbs just north of Dallas, the response was amazingly receptive.

But by a few weeks later visible public questioning had largely ceased. Most Americans accepted the Bush administration's definition of a war of absolute
Thanks for all the good work guys.

None of this Bush disaster would be possible without the right wing talk radio monopoly. We know Bush and the GOP don't care how many people protest at state or federal capitols. They WILL care if people protest at their local talk radio stations where their propaganda is broadcast.

Right wing radio is the only place the lies can be repeated over and over to a largely captive audience- "to catapult the propaganda", as Bush said. That is the GOP base and that is what makes red states red. Many progressives and sensible people ignore it because it gives headaches and nausea but it permeates this country with boundaries over which people like Dan Rather cannot pass.

Talk radio is where the "immigration crisis" has beeen blown up far enough to pass the real id legislation but more importantly has been used and will be used to knock down any real election reform.

What gets the GOP base to cheerlead their reps and harrass and threaten anyone who questions or threatens their agenda, especially Republicans who might want to cross Bush, is talk radio. As long as the local talk radio
“It wouldn't surprise me if the election was rigged,” said a U.S. Army officer in Mosul who requested anonymity from Time and who worked on security arrangements for the poll with Iraqi security and election officials. “I don't even trust our election process.”

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Thanks for the on-site report of the stolen Ohio, etc. vote. But when I tried to forward this a dozen people I know who would appreciate this info, I find your web guy has limited the number addresses you can input to only TWO! Help. Who has time to enter two at a time and then start all over or am I missing something?

Hi... I just read Bob and Harvey's article on the stolen elections.  

This webpage documents on video the testimony of Mr Clinton Curtis before a congressional committee. Mr. Curtis, who is a computer programmer, testifies that in October of 2000 he created a software program to skew the results in an election where electronic voting machines are employed. He also names Florida rep. and Dieboldt lobbyist Tom Feeney as the "customer" who commissioned this work. It's time to get beyond the exit pole debate and go after the people criminally responsible for creating the debacle that the US nows finds itself in... because if the US wants to be purveyors of democracy to the world, it had best start attaching a product "best-before" date.

Evidently, it can easily turn sour... 
Gary

http://www.iwilltryit.com/fixed1.htm
Hello,

I didn't see the articles that you refer to in your piece b/c I don't read mother jones or tom paine's website. But I just wanted to send the criticism your way that you folks shouldn't act as if the left is not embracing that the election was stolen. You guys are obviously aware that Jon Conyers, Ralph Nader, David Cobb, Amy Goodman, Jesse Jackson and many other notables of the left have supported your ideas about the election. I think also In These Times has printed articles on the stolen election, and articles on the voting fraud have been up on commondreams.org and buzzflash.com. So anyway keep on keeping on, your latest piece that I have seen is informative like all your articles, and i think a good portion of the left does believe that the Republicans stole the 2004 election. I wonder how long elections have been stolen in this country I don't know if anyone has done the investigating/research to answer that. I of course don't know the full extent to which your efforts are being attacked and undermined by your supposed comrades at arms, but I think you have more support than you realize.

All the best,

-Sean
I like the article by Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman October 18, 2005 entiled : Why can't the left face the Stolen Elections of 2004 & 2008?

A lot of information seems to surface now a days regarding stolen elections. I'm under the understanding from researchers that this is a standard norm in governmants  If we go back to the Roman Empire it is the standard norm of stolen elections. Lyndon Baines Johnson knew that President Kennedy stole the election in 1960 in all probability LBJ helped by way of Big Politics, Big Religion,Big Business or Corporations and there Banner Corps. And then when they were done with LBJ according to Lady Bird the Secret Service expired him.

And the article below sums the arguement:

AUSTIN, Texas -- I have been collecting material for a series of columns on the peppy topic, "How Do We Fix This Mess?" The news is dandy in that there are a lot of a sound ideas being passed around. Really serious messes, like the one this country is in, do not, in my experience, have simple, definitive solutions. And if they do, such solutions are politically impossible. We are looking for progress, not perfection, so anyone who tells you the entire tax code should fit on a postcard is a bona fide, certified, chicken-fried moron.

But listening to the Democratic debate on what to do now, it seems to me some of the brethren and sistren are asking the wrong questions. The question is not, "How Do We Win?" That's a technical question that comes after, "What the Hell Can We Do About This Disaster?"

I personally think some good ideas and a plan should come first -- and to this end, let me chime in on a note of agreement with some Actual Moderates, William A. Galston and Elaine C. Kamarck, a couple of Clintonites still carrying on in that old Third Way that was good enough for Bill C.

Columbus, OH. The ruling elites are at it again, baiting and switching your votes. What could have been honest election reform in Ohio turns out to be a way for officials to concentrate their power, removing it from voters.

Issue 2, mail-in voting, allows for a secret vote count, because we citizens aren't watching the ballots get deposited and then counted. "There are some civic duties for which your presence is required - voting is one of them." [1] When we trust our elections officials, we get what happened in '00 and '04. Without much thought, it's easy to see how mail fraud can happen. Vote no on Issue 2.

Issue 3 returns campaign limits from $10,000 per person to $2,000 - which was the law on the books before the Ohio legislature secretly increased the limits in late December - without allowing for public comment. Vote for this issue, but understand that our goal is to implement publicly financed campaigns and eliminate private contributions. Big Money has dirtied our elections process.[2] In our current system, those with more money get to vote more. This is not democracy - this is plutocracy, which is what we have today.

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